Atheism Is An Elaborate Lie November 19, 2008
Posted by Jacob Morales in General.Tags: absolute moral truth, agnostic, atheism, atheist, atheists, liberals, Moral Truth, religion, religions
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It’s the middle of December and fans from the visiting team are sitting huddled around each other as the snow falls heavily on the football stadium. The fans can plainly see that they are vastly outnumbered by the home team’s incredible number of supporters and patrons packing the large stadium. With just a few seconds left in the game the visiting team throws a Hail Mary and the receiver catches the football in the back corner of the end zone.
There is a flag on the play.
The home team and one of the refs don’t think the receiver had both feet inside the end zone when he caught the ball. The visitors know they saw a touchdown, the home team KNOWS they saw a catch out of bounds. The home team’s fans think that the visiting team’s supporters are clearly crazy for their stupidity and are shocked that they could possibly believe that was a touchdown. The home team’s fans are getting violent. They are getting angry. They don’t care if they are objectively right or wrong; they have lost sight of reality and now are ready to pounce on the minority.
Atheism Lies
Doesn’t sound so crazy when we make this striking comparison yet this is increasingly becoming what we see today with the Atheist and Liberal mentality taking hold in modern thinking. The real secret and lie is that most atheists want you to believe that they are these completely passive rationalists who seek only to debate and discuss objective “evidence” for the purpose of enlightenment. Atheism has become a well packaged lie that is backed by a mandate of a people who want to get even with Christians.
However even when you attempt to discuss their ideas for the purpose of logical debate you quickly see what fuels their intentions. Virtually every atheist will agree to what they call “situational truth”. For example, rape is wrong, sacrificial murders of human beings is wrong, genocide is wrong, etc. What they will not concede is how these statements alone imply an objective moral order for fear of what it forces them to do. Question their perception of their own subjective reality. Atheists will quickly label something “evil” (war, bigotry, racism, etc) yet deny the very possibility of a source of their objective morality that governs their “situational” viewpoints.
To put it simple, they agree that breaking the law is wrong; they just refuse to believe the law has an origin. They base their morality on the majority’s viewpoint of what is socially right, but how does that work in the real world (e.g. The Rwandan Genocide, Hitler, Stalin, Darfur, etc.)? If that majority dictates moral truth for that time, then moral truth is subjective both individually and for the group and is completely meaningless.
Angry Atheism
Atheists spend far more time attacking Christianity than they do any other faith. Why is that? It’s obvious; they have an agenda to destroy the very existence of our faith and will do whatever they can do accomplish that goal. Much like their god, Evolution, they slowly want to erode Christianity until it is gone from the earth all together. Christianity and religion is a threat to them and many of them are eager to remove it from the pages of history.
In reference to their “evidence” one thing atheists won’t discuss in great detail is the evolutionary gaps. They have very very few fossils that support the “in between” animals that eventually became humans…not only do they have very few of them but many of them are completely ridden with controversy with respect to their validity (pieced together fossils by those with an agenda).
They refuse to acknowledge that their “evidence” has any weaknesses so they can continue to hide from the real issue…
They hate the idea of God
Let’s assume for the sake of argument that TODAY God stepped out of the clouds and said “SEE IM REAL!” (And HE did with the life, death and resurrection of Christ)
It wouldn’t sway atheists because the real reason they don’t believe in God is their original emotional disdain for a God on many completely subjective issues. Suffering, World Hungry, Pestilence, Disease, War, Crime, etc. Even if we could prove God was real today, they would not change their perspectives because whether they admit it or not they refuse to follow a God for emotional reasons. They are not these super intellectual beings they pretend to be.
The trick so many atheists (and liberals alike) use is to bombard you with their “evidence” and scientific data to confuse you into believing that you are blind, ignorant and foolish. I experienced this first hand in college. In sociology my atheist homosexual teacher asked me to write a paper on our personal viewpoints of homosexuals in society today. I wrote my opinion and received a D+ for my work. I wrote grammatically correct, I did not attack homosexuals; I simply stated my religious opinions. I received an A in my advanced writing class and an A in my legal writing class that same semester. You tell me who is subjective and who isn’t.
She later withdrew me from the class after 2 missed classes the entire semester (we were allowed 4) for going to the dentist. I’ve have seen this type of reverse discrimination happen time and time again.
They won’t tell you, but most atheists believe that Christians are like a cancerous plague in modern society. Their clear hatred and disdain for Christians has seeped over into the media and virtually all outlets of modern entertainment. Their agenda is not merely to prove us wrong; it is to silence us forever. Make no mistake a large majority of atheists and non believers are not just interested in just disproving Christianity; they are interested in eradicating it forever. Don’t believe me? Spend 5 minutes searching the internet and read a few blogs, watch a few videos, listen to a podcast from atheists and liberals. They aren’t just mad; they want to get even…
God's Creation
I look at this flower and see the glory of God in His creation. They look at it and desperately try to explain to us how the protein molecules matched chemically with the carbon and created one helix of the DNA strand that over 189 billion years evolved into a cell that 982 trillion years later became a bean sprout that decided one day it didn’t want to become a bean sprout and now wanted to be a purdy flower and then made all of these extra stamens and designs because it was evolutionarily necessary.
But we are the crazy ones huh?
Atheists suffer from ostrich disease…you can’t reason with someone who has their head stuck in the sand.
I guess like so many others they can’t plainly see that the emperor is completely….
Well…
It looks like you’re the crazy one.
Prove me there is a God. You just cannot. Do you want me to prove the contrary? I can easily show you why there, probably, doesn’t exist anything above us, or inside us, aka god.
Religion is simply a way of controlling humankind. There is no need for such a non-sense.
And no, Evolution is not a God. Evolution is proof-based theory for the explanation on the origin of life. Not a religion, not a god. Evolution is something that Religion cannot fight with because Evolution is based on scientific proof and religion is based on faith. Do you understand that?
I totally recommend you this book, so that you can learn something about the world: Richard Dawkins – The God Delusion.
Be open-minded!
I would argue that you Mr. Pregueiro is the one who is not open minded. I love how so many of you continue to dismiss the real reason you are angry with Christianity. It’s your emotional disdain for it. That’s the bottom line.
Science use to say that the world was flat, I’m not interested in the subjective opinions of a fellow liar.
Here is something else to think about. If an atheist is sick and dying in a hospital, they are the first ones to scream to God, “please help me”. All of a sudden, God exists.
Great article!
Amen Tanya, they tend to avoid the God issue until it involves the end of their life and they realize it has virtually no meaning. Thanks for stopping by Tanya, God bless you!
The content of your post seems entirely made of straw; you seem to have constructed a self perception of Atheism which would appear to be pretty much entirely false and without basis for justification.
The real secret and lie is that most atheists want you to believe that they are these completely passive rationalists who seek only to debate and discuss objective “evidence” for the purpose of enlightenment.
I would agree that is what most Atheists want. They want a world based on rational thought without having to call on myths, legends, superstitions and the like.
Atheism has become a well packaged lie that is backed by a mandate of a people who want to get even with Christians.
This is where you start to fall down; you make a claim without providing any actual evidence to back it up.
However even when you attempt to discuss their ideas for the purpose of logical debate you quickly see what fuels their intentions. Virtually every atheist will agree to what they call “situational truth”. For example, rape is wrong, sacrificial murders of human beings is wrong, genocide is wrong, etc.
Yes, all of those things are wrong. I doubt you will find many people who would disagree with that.
What they will not concede is how these statements alone imply an objective moral order for fear of what it forces them to do.
Why would they concede it? It implies no such thing.
All it does imply is that society as a whole has come to a consensus/understanding that such things are wrong. What is and isn’t considered moral has changed throughout history countless times and is changing right this very instant in a lot of very minor ways that eventually add up to big changes and trends.
The best example of this would be slavery; at one time owning slaves was considered to be a proper gentlemanly thing to do but now it is regarded as despicable in all first world regions on Earth (the only place it really has a strong foothold still is western parts of Africa and small pockets of remote Asia).
For a source of object morality to exist, then every person on the planet would have to hold to the same exact morals which clearly is not the case.
To put it simple, they agree that breaking the law is wrong; they just refuse to believe the law has an origin.
Not at all. The first laws were construed in primitive tribes first as simple customs for settling disputes. But then morality is pretty much evolutionary in nature itself. Tribes who worked out ways to get along with each other (don’t steal, kill, etc) tended to survive a lot better than tribes that fell to barbarism/infighting/killing each other and it simply went from there.
If that majority dictates moral truth for that time, then moral truth is subjective both individually and for the group and is completely meaningless.
Why is it meaningless? It’s a matter of growth, testing, seeing what works and building on things as time progresses. In fact, I would say that the ever improving moral outlook of humanity is one of its more meaningful endeavours and says a lot about us as a species.
To use an analogy; the first plane was a rickety frame that barely left the ground but it was still very far from meaningless – it proved to be the foundation for unbelievable advances for everyone. Same goes with morality.
Atheists spend far more time attacking Christianity than they do any other faith. Why is that?
The answer to that is simple but two-fold:
* Christianity is the religion that most western Atheists are the most familiar with. But you will note that Atheists do not support in any way any other organised religion (with the possible exception of the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster, simply because it’s good for a laugh).
* Linked but separate; Christianity is the religion that is most ‘in their faces’. Constantly you have religious lobby groups trying to influence legislation and government decisions which (apart from being unlawful) is rather disconcerting and can quickly lead to a theocracy (which has never worked in human history).
Much like their god, Evolution
Hm. I wonder what proof you have for that particular statement. Of course, so far proof seems rather light on the ground in this entry of yours.
In reference to their “evidence” one thing atheists won’t discuss in great detail is the evolutionary gaps.
Actually, this is kind of a funny one. What’s been found is that once a fossil is found then a certain crowd of people tend to point at the fossil and proclaim that now there are twice as many gaps.
I suggest you read up on the fossils found and scientifically document. http://www.talkorigins.org has a rather nice (if slightly outdated and thus incomplete) list of them.
But again, you’re making statements without providing any evidence to support them.
It wouldn’t sway atheists because the real reason they don’t believe in God is their original emotional disdain for a God on many completely subjective issues.
I would rephrase that to say that Atheists have a general disdain for ignorance, not god. It just seems that, generally speaking, that god appeals to ignorance and does not encourage exploration of ideas or technological advancements.
Suffering, World Hungry, Pestilence, Disease, War, Crime, etc. Even if we could prove God was real today, they would not change their perspectives because whether they admit it or not they refuse to follow a God for emotional reasons.
Hm. This particular track of text, as silly as it is, is best dealt with by Epicursus:
Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?
The trick so many atheists (and liberals alike) use is to bombard you with their “evidence” and scientific data to confuse you into believing that you are blind, ignorant and foolish.
Oh yes, because evidence and scientific data is no good, untrustworthy and has never led to any advances throughout society. By the way … how is your computer? Your disease free lifestyle? Car? Electricity? House?
In short, this sort of rambling does little but make you sound really rather paranoid; apparently making allusions to grand conspiracies to crush your persecuted minority.
Which, of course, is silly.
I experienced this first hand in college. In sociology my atheist homosexual teacher
You state that as if there is something wrong with being homosexual. Now, tone is hard to interpret in written media but I would hope you would not be demonstrating yourself to be homophobic as well as paranoid.
asked me to write a paper on our personal viewpoints of homosexuals in society today. I wrote my opinion and received a D+ for my work. I wrote grammatically correct, I did not attack homosexuals; I simply stated my religious opinions. I received an A in my advanced writing class and an A in my legal writing class that same semester. You tell me who is subjective and who isn’t.
That, of course, would be impossible to say without seeing the papers submitted. However, all colleges/universities have appeal procedures in place to get any piece of work marked by someone else (even in other campuses if requested).
If you did not take advantage of such mechanisms, then I guess that is your own problem and not anyone else’s.
She later withdrew me from the class after 2 missed classes the entire semester (we were allowed 4) for going to the dentist. I’ve have seen this type of reverse discrimination happen time and time again.
Again, appeal processes exist for such events and I get the distinct feeling that we’re not getting the full picture in this particular story. Or any evidence for that matter. Again.
They won’t tell you, but most atheists believe that Christians are like a cancerous plague in modern society.
Again, no evidence for your statement.
In fact, I can prove your wrong by my personal experience. My partner is Christian and I am an Atheist. I love her utterly and hope that our lives will be together and full of happiness and joy. If your statement was correct, I wouldn’t be able to bear being near her.
Instead, I would merely restate that it is ignorance that Atheists have disdain for and not Christianity.
I look at this flower and see the glory of God in His creation.
Just because you interpret (without any evidence, mind you) something that way does not make it true.
They look at it and desperately
Why use the word ‘desperately’? It is actually a rather well documented and observed process. In short, it is understood really rather well.
try to explain to us how the protein molecules matched chemically with the carbon and created one helix of the DNA strand that over 189 billion years evolved into a cell that 982 trillion years later became a bean sprout that decided one day it didn’t want to become a bean sprout and now wanted to be a purdy flower and then made all of these extra stamens and designs because it was evolutionarily necessary.
Now for those reading who may not know, that above paragraph is an excellent example of people spouting complete gibberish. Lots of terms shoved together in no particular order to try to make some semblance of an argument. Of course, it has no actual basis in reality and is really only good as an example of a strawman argument.
Atheists suffer from ostrich disease…you can’t reason with someone who has their head stuck in the sand.
Lots of statements but again no actual evidence. The ones you could truthfully about are those that ignore the evidence to stick by their own conclusions; generally known as Creationists.
Science use to say that the world was flat, I’m not interested in the subjective opinions of a fellow liar.
The Catholic Church used to say purgatory existed, that you can buy indulgences to get into Heaven quicker, that demons cause mental illness and so on.
So I guess that makes them liars as well? Heck, the official line of the Catholic Church is that Evolution is fine. Guess that since Catholics are the largest Christian Denomination, that carries a bit of weight.
Here is something else to think about. If an atheist is sick and dying in a hospital, they are the first ones to scream to God, “please help me”. All of a sudden, God exists.
Statements but no evidence. If anything, it is a case of desperation but it is certainly not based on evidence.
Indeed, studies have shown that prayer to god (or any other deity) does not affect the outcomes in recovery in the slightest (in fact, when taken into account religious practices of various denominations such as refusing blood transfusions and the like, it often hurts recovery time). People, no matter their beliefs, get scared and tend to try to cling to anything that might save them.
Basic human nature to do so but it certainly does not indicate the existence of any sort of deity figure, since people have been appealing to all sort of deities throughout human history with the same ineffective results.
Matt Im about to be gone for a few hours. I’ll formulate a response later tonight. Thanks for posting…
whatever
this is the most ridiculous post i read in a long time
and you obviously don’t know what you’re talking about
cliche after cliche
i will definitely never visit again
I love how you didn’t address any of the issues…you did what they all do.
RUN
“I love how you didn’t address any of the issues…you did what they all do.
RUN”
Just like you eventually did from my argument against objective morality? I really, really thought we were going to go somewhere too! It just started to get good. I guess it is going to end with the same way it always does.
I don’t understand and most likely never will because I don’t have Faith in “God.” But you really, really sincerely hope that some day I can be one with Jesus and see the TRUTH the same as you do.
It always comes down to that. Do you see any other end to this?
“I would argue that you Mr. Pregueiro is the one who is not open minded. I love how so many of you continue to dismiss the real reason you are angry with Christianity. It’s your emotional disdain for it. That’s the bottom line.”
How about you stop changing the topic, stop spouting (Matt mentined the tactic you love to use) “Straw man” arguments, stop theorizing about our motives, and answer some questions?
Religious science said the world was flat, modern science found out that it wasn’t.
You see, the only hatred for Christianity that atheists have is that it (and all religions) makes people who don’t have all the answers to think that they do (thanks Bill Maher).
By the way, if you have ever read a page of philosophy you will see that to base morality on the existence of God is impossible because it provides no objective foundation for morality, and nothing from which moral maxims can be derived. Try reading Kant’s “On the Metaphysics of Morals” or John Stuart Mill’s moral theory of utilitarianism, and tell me again that atheists cannot have morality without a God. You cannot have morality only based on God.
you erased out discussion, what a shame that you do not have any more ideas to argue with my point of view… seems theres not much justification for your “open minded” post, right?
I’m still waiting for a response for my comments.